i asked paul ryan this and i can't get an answer -- how? because it's going to hurt. >> there are new baselines now in the budget. obviously we just -- as we know, some of the difficulty and the differences in washington are centered around the method of accounting, whether it's static or dynamic. because static, when you raise taxes, that additional taxes because of the cliff deal, that adjusts the baseline. that is going to make the numbers look somewhat differently. right? and we veal to make some choices, no question about it. but we have committed to putting a budget out there that will actually bring it to balance within ten years. >> there's fot got sob some big change -- >> we haven't seen the numbers yet but i'm telling you this added baseline adjustment, because of the revenues, because you're statally scoring it, is going to have an effect.ically s going to have an effect. there are things we've got to do. you cannot keep spending this kind of money, and it's driven by the health care costs coupled with the demographics. we've go